Understanding Emotional EnergyTM Episode 13
Today Daishi speaks with Andrew on the subject of emotional energy. What is emotional energy? How can we learn to master our emotions and bring more awareness and compassion into our lives?
Episode 13 Extract
Understanding Emotional Energy
“Two people can look at the same event and have completely different emotional reactions. For instance, you have two scenarios that are factually the same, you know, something that’s happening in the world out there. But the reaction is completely different or polar opposites between two different individuals. And that shows us that there is a huge bias in how we feel. And the only reason that bias could exist is because there are societally and culturally driven influences that we’ve had our entire lives that shape that illusory, or transient identity that we call ourselves.”
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Full Transcript of This Episode
Andrew: Hello and welcome to Drukama Radio. My name is Andrew. I have the honour of co-hosting the show. And of course we’re very grateful to have Daishi with us again. Now I know the answer to this question because you’re always upbeat and firing on all cylinders – but I’ll ask you anyway – how are you Daishi?
Daishi: I am doing fantastic as always, I’m glad to talk with you, it’s exciting to be here again and I love having the time to do these shows. We get so much positive feedback and it seems tom be helping people so I’m really excited about this particular show in general because it’s one of those topics that affects everybody across the board whether you’re deeply embedded in the Path or whether you’re just wanting to figure yourself out a bit. So this is going to be a good one I think.
Andrew: Well it’s my job to get as much of you into the next twenty minutes, so if it works for you, let’s just get straight into it, shall we?
Andrew: This week’s topic is Emotional Energy. Now I imagine what comes to mind for most people when they think about emotional energy it is that thing that happens when your teenager shows you just how hard they can slam their bedroom door. Is that what we’re talking about it here?
What is emotional energy exactly?
Daishi: So there’s two ways to look at it, I think. One from a practical human standpoint which is the way we feel. Our sensations and the way we react to perceptions of the world and ourselves. Right? So our own thoughts and the way we relate to those thoughts and the way that we see the world. So we have these things that are at its core and in more of a spiritual sense for a Seeker that is more advanced energetic roots that come through the identity filter in different flavors for lack of a better word. As they transcend through the identity filters – you know that stuff that makes us the “I”, the ego and the cognitive awareness and the memories and so on – the intellect and whatnot – we agree as a human race to call different vibes or vibrations or waves different flavours of energy, like excitement, anxiety, love, hate, fear, etc.
And we sort of just experience these flavors and even really today science is still trying to figure out where these things come from. There is no place in the body or the mind where we can say that’s the emotion of fear, and we can turn that off and we’ll have no fear again. They sort of become generated somewhere in us but not directly related to a particular functioning instrument. It’s very interesting.
Andrew: Yes, it certainly is. So if I’m not mistaken, so emotional energy is kind of colored by your worldview to some degree or other? I mean if you are generally an upbeat kind of person then you will color that emotional energy in a very positive way and you will have a very positive macrocosmic experience. Whereas if you are generally a very pessimistic kind of person or a fault-finder, you know, they like to call themselves trouble-shooters, they’re always looking for what is wrong with something. If you are one of those people, then you are going to color that emotional energy that you are tuning into, in a negative way, and you are going to have a negative macrocosmic experience.
Daishi: It is interesting because I think we’ve talked about this. If two people can look at the same event and have completely different emotional reactions … so in that instance you have two scenarios that are factually the same, you know, something that is happening in the world out there, but the reaction is completely different. Or polar opposite between two different individuals. And that shows us that there’s a huge bias in how we feel. And the only reason that bias could exist is because the societally and culturally driven influences that we’ve had our entire lives shape that illusory or transient identity that we call “ourselves”.
Andrew: Yeah. You know speaking of influences there seems to be a very strong connection between music and emotional energy. Doesn’t there? And with music being used quite significantly in film to influence the viewers emotional experience sometimes very subtly and sometimes very obviously. But with music being frequency and vibration and the fact that we can be affected by it quite powerfully leads me to believe that emotional energy is a frequency we sort of connect to consciously or unconsciously – as opposed to being something self-generated. Would I be on the right track there?
Daishi: Yeah, I agree with you entirely. On one hand we seem to be influenced by it, we seem to be overtaken by it, and somehow it seems to affect us in an unconscious way. Again, for somebody who is just starting this Seeking Path, right, or trying to look within themselves or evolve and understand this vehicle-body, it may seem like the power of emotion is SO strong that it takes us out of the thing we think that we are — and morphs us into other things. If I am just having a normal day and somebody on the road makes me angry or I feel like the perception of what I’ve seen this person do on the road suddenly takes me over and I see red and become an angry person and I throw a tantrum. And then moments later I say, wow that was kinda ridiculous, how did I “let that happen”? So the power of emotion can drive our lives. And that’s one of the problems we have – we don’t understand the switches. We don’t understand this vehicle well enough so we’re really overtaken. You know again we talked about the mental side but emotions are a huge factor in how we play out our lives and how we feel and experience – that happiness or that sadness. And a lot of that is impressed – there’s impressions – that drive that.
So everything on the spiritual Path in the beginning – because in later it gets more advanced and we get more mystical with it – but in the beginning it is about taking control of the buttons and switches, so that the emotions and the mental mindstream, the mental aggregates and how they fluctuate and their derivations don’t take us over all the time. They don’t decide how we’re going to live, feel, see and perceive the world. Instead we begin to take them back – we take control of this vehicle. And in that way we can take control of how we feel – moment by moment – and how we perceive, moment by moment, because we move away from the illusory filters and we realize that entanglement has been the problem. So that’s part of the beginning of the foundational stages of any practical path.
Now, just to not to jump too far, and we can go backwards from this, but that is always the foundation of every spiritual Path. To begin to move away from the entanglement of self – is to move away – move backwards and see and watch the mental aggregates, the mindstream and how it performs its symphony – that creates the transient identity. You know the thing we think “that’s me”, those are my memories, that’s my intellect, this is not really ours anything, it’s just a system running. And we become entangled in that, and also the reactionary emotions that follow those things.
So, once we back up – as part of that foundation – we begin to watch and see those instruments and learn how they operate, so we can utilize them in them on the second part of the Path, which is then the active role of becoming more Stream-oriented or Realized or Awakened in a true sense. I don’t mean awakened that I just understand how the government functions, that’s just being a good citizen. I don’t mean awakened that I’m starting to feel more empathy for other people. That’s a beautiful thing but that’s just being a good human being. In the spiritual sense or that word, that’s beaten in over years, in the spiritual Path sense, I mean to actually understand that this magnificent vehicle that we’re all riding in, called the human physiological body and its unconscious mechanism that drives our reality, once we get control of that, the second part of the path is learning how to use it in a way that creates not only an intense joyful and fun ride for me while I’m here, but hopefully for others.
Andrew: Yeah. And it’s interesting that you used the word control there a couple of times. And I know that you are not using the word in a negative sense; but in the personal development field for instance they use the word self-control quite a lot, which implies coercion, right? Which isn’t great for the spiritual Path at all?
So how do we walk that fine line between trying to manage our emotional energy and not actually suppressing or controlling it?
Daishi: That’s a fantastic point. Because you’re absolutely right. Because the terms we use can seem like they have a negative connotation. There is a fine line between what we would term control and what a normal person, like a self-empowerment coach, would term control in most instances and I’m not saying in all of them, but in some of them or generally; anytime there is a war, repression, aversion, attraction, any movement that wants to either push away or pull toward that’s unconscious. And when I say control, I mean it consciously, and there’s a big difference. See – there’s an unbiased impartial view when we gain this kind of control. It surpasses and moves beyond the dualistic or binary mind.
Which means it’s either good or bad. The little mind, the little brain, the way that it operates is that it is either good or bad, I either go forward or I go backward, I either love or I hate; it’s very biased based. And it needs to be that way because while we’re unconscious and it has to keep us alive. And it’s gotta make some hard-core decisions while it’s functioning in this 3D world. But as we realistically, authentically awaken to those instruments in that process — we begin to see that there’s another structure, there’s another way of looking at things that far surpasses the dualistic or binary 0s and 1s mind. And that larger Mind, or that All-Minds-Space doesn’t exist in a limited way that is on and off. It can be both on and off. It can be off and off, off and on, on and on, it has all kinds of derivations that are beautiful.
It can do things that the lower-mind can’t possibly fathom and in that there’s a new kind of — and again, bad word, — control but it’s really just that we allow the bad and the good to be what we want it to be. So there may be the same circumstances. But we’re going to see it and experience it in an entirely different way, and that’s what makes it radical. That’s what makes it unbelievably special and beautiful and radiantly clear and absolutely diamond light sharp. And this is the reason why the authentic path involves these specific steps; and they have been carried through, generation over generation for thousands of years because it’s so special, because it’s so amazing, because it’s so radical. Because it creates within us the kind of freedom from the vehicle — from the machine — that is so special and amazing — that you wanna just scream it from the rooftops! You want everybody else to experience it as well, and that’s where the compassion ties in.
And for example, and to go right back and to end this thought, where you say control in the beginning as a way maybe a coach would say it, or you know take control of yourself, you would have to be compassionate based on controlling your emotions – like try to be compassionate. That’s a coercion. I don’t feel compassion. I don’t have an attribute of compassion. But I am forcing myself to be compassionate. The difference is that after this Realized State starts to dawn, compassion just becomes – you don’t try to be compassionate, you just are. Because you’re operating from a new set of variables.
Compassion is just the right view – it just becomes, you become it. So there’s never a coercive moment. You’re never trying to control or fight or war anything. You are just becoming more pure in the way you experience and compassion is one of those pure attributes in the higher and bigger Mind. That doesn’t necessarily exist in the biased, dualistic or binary mind.
Andrew: Yeah, wonderful stuff. And you know another word that has a negative connotation is temper. Which is related to a degree of strength, right? And we often say he or she has quite a temper, meaning they are prone to getting angry. But to me, my temper, is the strength of my Will to resist being overcome by or carried by a strong wave of emotional energy. You know? So losing your temper would be a sign that your Will needs be given some attention. But having quite a temper should be a good thing, right? So you should be increasing your temper so as not to be overcome or carried by emotional energy. Did I just make no sense at all? Semantics I know, but words mean stuff, right?
Daishi: But it’s a perfect – you made a perfect point. Because if you look, well there’s two good points there – because one, the way we use words you know, the way we understand words varies so greatly from person to person that we have to very careful and we have to really have empathy to understand where the person is coming from who speaks those words – because they may not mean them the way I think. My definitions might not be their definitions. So another reason we want to get away from the entanglement of self is because self will dominate us with our own definitions and then we’ll use that temper in order to defend our definition which isn’t a good way to communicate at all – in fact, it’s an ignorant way to communicate.
So once we get out of the entanglements I can allow you to say temper and allow you to express temper, the way you know it to be, the way you define it, and I can accept your definition and then relate with you and communicate with you in a much better way. So getting away from that entanglement, but back to your more specific point, your temper in that case is a sign of energy that you are now utilizing, now we use the word control, but you’re utilising that energy in a way that helps you overcome the entanglements to mind. So that’s a positive use. So your use of temper is positive whereas other people would say, “he’s got a huge temper!” Right? So, for you, you’d say, “oh that’s fantastic!” That means he can utilize that temper to overcome the signs of anger, frustration, anxiety, stress, and these disorders. Where someone would else would say no, no, that just means he loses control and he breaks things. No, no it is completely different uses of the energy itself.
So again emotion is just an arising of energy, filtered through the societal and cultural influenced identity and then sprayed out through this filter or flavor of emotion.
Once we can catch that prior to that filter process – thinking by backing up, then we can begin to utilise the energy itself – not the emotion – but the energy itself, before it transmutes into that possibly negative emotional karmic entanglement, for positive. Or for our own growth. Or for our own advancements, etc. And this is exactly what we do when we have the Teachings week by week – where we show you how to do these things, one step at a time.
How to go from the beginning, basics of understanding just the mind-stream and the way you operate, and then how to slowly walk out backwards so as to leave the room by stepping back. Seeing everything and saying, “okay, wow, there’s my mind, there’s all my parts of my mind, there’s that thing I call self and it’s not one thing, and it’s actually a symphony of things that seems to be one thing and it’s always changing and involving, there’s the static cognition and awareness that just watches everything and there is the filters that make the flavours that make the emotions and oh my lord, and this is how all these things come together and they generate how I live and WOW, I have no control over these things.”
And as we’re walking back and watching this we begin to slowly take back control of how that raw energy starts to move and operate – how we utilise it prior to getting into aggregates and getting into flavours and filters of emotions, then we have control in the way that we can figure out and use based on our positive pure intention that energy for all kinds of things. And again I would say for good, but that’s not really right, it’s not for good, it’s just for productivity. Which means just the general happiness and the destructiveness of Ignorance, the way we want to rid ourselves and others of an ignorant view and ignorance itself. So we need to get control of that energy. We need to understand that energy. We need to utilise that energy in the way every human should – so that we can then constructively use it to help ourselves and potentially help other people as well.
Andrew: Excellently stated as usual Daishi, thank you. And as I feared, you’ve succinctly blown through all of the questions I have here in those two or three beats. And besides we’re kind of coming to the end of the time anyway. But do you want to add anything else before we do some housekeeping and close up?
Daishi: Yeah sure, but I mean essentially emotions are responsible for many physiological ailments. I think that’s really important to understand. Emotions are really killing people that we love. They’re killing people all over the Earth. They’re causing cancer and ailments. They’re more responsible than I think we give them credit for in terms of destroying our lives. Not just in the way we feel moment by moment, which is terrible, because we should feel more connected, more open, more honest, more loving, more compassionate, more impartial, more joyful, etc., but also overtime these emotions they may be really subtle but they do kill and eat up and destroy our physiological bodies as well. And you know, we’re already inundated by a world filled with societal influences, right? We’re being influenced constantly and those influences are affecting the way that we operate, and the way that our aggregates operate, and I mean the way that we see everything.
So it is important that we begin to figure out this vehicle – figure out our emotional resonance, our vibration, figure out how to utilise it the best way possible. And again, if you’re not coming to us for help, please find somebody that has authentically understood that process. And gone through it themselves. And has transformed themselves. And have them help you figure it out. Because it’s a treacherous Path; when you’re inside it, when you’re entangled in it, it’s very hard to find your way out of that maze without a Guide. So if you know someone that has been through it – authentically – go there!
Otherwise come to us or anyone else willing to help. And you’ll see what may be a rollercoaster life, highs and lows, I accomplish things but there’s these let-downs or I’m just not satisfied, or I’m not finding answers or I’m really not having any changes in the way that I am – year after year – except for the flavor of ice-cream that I like and the music that I like, or the date or the girl that I date – it’s not happening.
So go somewhere radical. Find someone that can actually help you understand how this vehicle operates and then begin to teach you how to take back control of it so you can make it operate as efficiently as possible and life becomes a fun rollercoaster instead of a [laughter] crazy terrible rollercoaster.
But in the end that’s the cure for humanity’s ailments. IT’s to stop thinking that there’s an antidote out there for the ailments that we feel in here, in the body. It’s not out there. If it was, the richest would be perfectly happy, healthy, smiling and joyful every day and they’re not. They’re still committing suicide, they’re still depressed, even the most famous people in the world, still searching … seeking. So it’s not out there it’s in here somewhere, the problem is, without help, the chance of falling back into it are pretty slim.
So… get help and I think that’s paramount for anybody that is finding that their life is not as satisfying as they think it should be.
Andrew: As far as what I’m concerned, the best place to go is DRUKAMA.COM. And I know first-hand how much of your time is selflessly given to people all over the world and I’d hate myself if I didn’t take this opportunity to say how grateful we all are to you and for you. So, thanks so much for being with us today. It has been a wonderful conversation as usual.
Daishi: My pleasure and I love you, thank you for helping out with this podcast. I hope to have you back very soon, it’s nice to have you here, thank you.
Andrew: Absolutely my pleasure, thank you. Any questions or comments about the show, please send us an email at email@example.com. In the meantime, thank you all for tuning in and we look forward to seeing you next time!